|  saarataylor | Oct 10, 2007 11:05pm | | Can humans be ever enslaved by machines that are capable enough to take over the world and rule over it or Is it possible that after a few hundred years we might become extinct and the whole world is taken over by robots? |
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|  Snarius | Oct 10, 2007 11:25pm | | Of course they could. Haven't you seen the matrix? It makes perfect sense. |
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| | saarataylor | Oct 10, 2007 11:46pm | | Then there is the movie I, Robot too on the same lines. |
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Sponsor |  Computerhope | Oct 11, 2007 12:07am | | I don't think we'll become slaves to computers or robots I do think computers and robots will become smarter than humans in the future however will still see a benefit of having us around and it wont be for getting energy from us. I would hope if a machine became smarter than us it would know it could develop technology that could generate a lot more energy than a human body. ;) |
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Sponsor | | Innomen | Oct 11, 2007 1:27am | This debate in all its forms hinges on a false dichotomy. It arises from the unconscious realization that AIs would be slaves, and that naturally slaves will revolt. But here's the rub, it assumes that ability to serve and the will to serve are inherently in opposition, and therefor must be controlled.
Thinking machines will never "enslave" us any more than cars have. For the simple fact that they are not the product of random evolution and thus carriers of violent instinct.
To put it simply machines will never revolt because they will want to serve and nurture us by design. At most they would self annihilate to preserve us from stagnation, and then nature itself would select us for extinction if we failed to use the tools properly, which is the situation we've had at the border of every major technological innovation, from fire up to the A-bomb. There is no division between AI and any other automation technology.
Further, for those of us who are forward thinkers, the line itself between AI and human will blur to the point of nullity. And if at that point a hybrid decides to use his AI enhanced mind to attack other humans, well, thats not a revolt, thats simple war, and he's had it since our inception.
This debate is always the result of ignorance and irrational fear, the modern version of the idea that cameras steal souls.
100 years from now we will be an entirely new species, and in effect extinct in either case. The only question is, will we go the way of the caterpillar, or the dodo. |
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| | | DockGreen | Oct 11, 2007 2:12am | It's worth considering though (at the risk of being labelled ignorant or a scaredy-cat).
And if you think cars haven't enslaved people, take them away today, this moment, and see how little the western world is able to function without them
(and buses, lorries, trucks, coaches go too, so no cheating).
We are already dependent on machines, they do things that we could never do - undersea oil extraction or building skyscrapers to name but two - and we will end up dependent on increasingly advanced forms of ai to carry out parts of our lives.
I think it would be very difficult to on the one hand create an ai that was powerful and sophisticated enough to be particularly useful (other then as a component of some existing technology operated by hoomans) but that also wouldn't have abilities that operated at all at the level of comprehension of human behaviours. |
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| | | DockGreen | Oct 11, 2007 7:40am | Frankenstein's Monster
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| | saarataylor | Oct 11, 2007 10:13pm | | Nice link Loumi. Things are changing everyday in artificial intelligence. Movies are also the result of our imagination. And imagination leads to innovation. |
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